She might read her sgf thread but I think it’s a bit of a reach to say she deletes because of it. There are just girls like that who often delete their SM posts imo. If she deletes 80% of her posts obviously a lot that we post are going to be deleted
If you go through her whole thread (I did again because when I first read it it was when I first joined sg and I wanted a refresh) and literally 95% (maybe even more) was gone and it was always when we said negative things about her/ her body. I just feel like it just being coincidence isn't possible. One time we posted something negative and 15 minutes later she deleted it and had this huge breakdown. Maybe it's just me though.
 
One time we posted something negative and 15 minutes later she deleted it and had this huge breakdown. Maybe it's just me though.

I'm just done commenting on her body, period. I'm looking back on the thread and seriously regretting a lot of shit I posted way back when I thought the weight was party weight and not trauma and mental illness. I think a lot of celebs we shit on here either will never read us/can handle it/they've heard our criticism before/a few just deserve it, but she's so clearly unwell.
 
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I really hope this quote was simply lost in translation by google translate because I read it twice and did not understand that at all!

That being said, I loved her interview and really appreciated the honesty. It makes me understand her behavior over the years a lot more.
Maybe it's the translation into broken English but it made sense to me.

Basically she feels lost in life. She has/had everything materialistic but still felt lost. At one point she met a man and she felt loved. I guess they had a break up and this re-triggered some sort of emptiness in her that she filled with food aka binging.

Growing pains. Most of us have been there at some point, some worse than others. Things change, you get stronger, it gets better. If you're reading this, we're all sincerely rooting for you, Lesya.. even if we call you out on the BS. When you hit rock bottom, there's nowhere to go but up. :luvluv:
 
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I love her, I’ve always loved her. Even through her little Kylie Jenner phase. I’ll still be rooting for her and hope she can pull through. When I first saw her picture on Model Polaroids I felt so stunned by her beauty and I still very much am.
 
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“The state in which I am, it is something special for me. My world, into which I am immersed. If you try to describe it in words, this is similar to the night of the pig, the spiritual DNA in which you stand and scream, and in response only your echo, for there is no one but you there, it's cold and whatever you do in life, what would you do not get it, everything falls through, well, yes, there are moments of illusion when here and you think that the hole is full, and exit is visible. But what is the point, if all these victories, money, work, they do not bring deliverance and do not patch this hole? Then the illusion disappears and you start again from the very beginning, leaving in itself. Therefore, when I met that, I considered it a salvation, as a reward for my torment. I met a man who genuinely understood and knew this feeling. He saved me, guided me in this tunnel which we call "Life", he was my light. At the moment he disappeared, I was scared, and the feeling of empty is unbearable. It's scary, and the feeling of EMPTY is intolerable and I was like a blind kitten who lost its mother and did not know where to go. The feeling of inner emptiness became unbearable and required immediate filling, anything: impressions, food, shuffle, communication with people, hard work, and when it did not help, I began to eat, and without stopping. I felt a strong "draft" inside, strong instability, lack of support, insecurity. My parents did not understand, they do not even know me, WHO I am. How I live, who I am as a person, they know only their daughter, but not me.”

Am I extremely overtired or does this translation read like a halfway decent poem?
 
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Such a perfect shape! But seeing her smoking, it just kills her princess-y vibe of her for me.:/
 
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I want to start out by saying this is just my opinion, but posting photos of body and commenting (good or bad) is a real issue for me. And I can tell it is for quite a few other members, but it seems some people haven't gotten the hint.

She has openly admitted she's been struggling severely with mental health issues and eating disorders for years. We shouldn't be envying that at all. From my experiences on SG, we don't promote eating disorders or people who have eating disorders and completely condemn any pro-ana behavior. But this continuous posting on her thread about her body seems to defy the norms here. Glorifying somebody with an eating disorder is the opposite of what anybody should be doing. Especially because if you google search "Alesya Kaf" Skinny Gossip is the third link that comes up so it wouldn't be hard to find this thread.

Just my two cents apologies if it's unwarranted but I just read through her thread and it made me really sad.
 
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I want to start out by saying this is just my opinion, but posting photos of body and commenting (good or bad) is a real issue for me. And I can tell it is for quite a few other members, but it seems some people haven't gotten the hint.

She has openly admitted she's been struggling severely with mental health issues and eating disorders for years. We shouldn't be envying that at all. From my experiences on SG, we don't promote eating disorders or people who have eating disorders and completely condemn any pro-ana behavior. But this continuous posting on her thread about her body seems to defy the norms here. Glorifying somebody with an eating disorder is the opposite of what anybody should be doing. Especially because if you google search "Alesya Kaf" Skinny Gossip is the third link that comes up so it wouldn't be hard to find this thread.

Just my two cents apologies if it's unwarranted but I just read through her thread and it made me really sad.
It's the same as the Lily Rose Depp thread. We all know she had an eating disorder as well yet we still post there and say she looks good. Us posting her working out and trying to be healthy is us encouraging her even more and showing that we are rooting for her. She even said herself that she is working out super hard and its helping fill that space that drugs and such filled before and should be praised for trying so hard to get better. If no one 100% abandoned Lily's thread after hearing about her disorder then why should we do the same with Aleysa's? What's the difference?
 
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What's the difference?

We know that Lily is in recovery and gaining as a result. The compliments in her thread have veered away from "omg look how skinny she is", which is precisely what goes on in here. We also have no indication that Lesya is recovering, not to mention that she's extremely volatile on social media. Apples and oranges.
 
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We know that Lily is in recovery and gaining as a result. The compliments in her thread have veered away from "omg look how skinny she is", which is precisely what goes on in here. We also have no indication that Lesya is recovering, not to mention that she's extremely volatile on social media. Apples and oranges.
But could Alesya working out prevent her from gaining? Gaining doesn't always mean someone has recovered. Alesya could switch from binging and purging to eating healthy meals and working out which would mean she probably won't have a noticeable gain. I'm in no way saying Alesya has 100% recovered and she's super happy now and living a good life but we have to think about all possibilities instead of labeling her as a girl who had an eating disorder for the rest of her life.
 
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It's the same as the Lily Rose Depp thread. We all know she had an eating disorder as well yet we still post there and say she looks good. Us posting her working out and trying to be healthy is us encouraging her even more and showing that we are rooting for her. She even said herself that she is working out super hard and its helping fill that space that drugs and such filled before and should be praised for trying so hard to get better. If no one 100% abandoned Lily's thread after hearing about her disorder then why should we do the same with Aleysa's? What's the difference?

Firstly, I want to apologize if my original post came off as condescending to anyone here. I had just read through the last few pages of her thread as well as the Daily Mail article about her and felt a little uncomfortable about some of the things said and posted.

Alesya was not only suffering from an eating disorder for years, but drug problems, self-harm, bipolar disorder, has been in treatment and still is in therapy and going to meetings, so she seems to be a more severe case than Lily-Rose and I have a feeling she's got a long way to go before she's recovered. I am happy she is finding solice in working out but I can't help but be a little weirded out by people envying her body. And her comment about using the gym as a way to punish herself irked me.

But that's just how I feel about it so of course everyone is free to post whatever they want! My first post was a first impression emotional response. I'll just keep myself away from this thread lol
 
What's the difference?

I don't think it's a fair comparison. Alesya is extremely troubled and it's clear her situation extends far beyond an eating disorder. We could definitely be little more sensitive to what we post on this thread, especially considering the likelihood of her reading it.
 
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Alesya was not only suffering from an eating disorder for years, but drug problems, self-harm, bipolar disorder, has been in treatment and still is in therapy and going to meetings, so she seems to be a more severe case than Lily-Rose
Just want to add my 2 cents. I work in addictions rn and I see patients 10x worse than Alesya ever was on the daily. If someone wants to recover, has the necessary resources to do so, and is actively working towards recovery... they will recover. If someone is actively self sabotaging and lying to themselves, no amount of "protection" will help them.
You absolutely cannot say Alesya is a more severe case than Lily based on one isolated interview. This is not a competition for who is "more sick", plus it may just be that Lily is more reserved. Sure her comment about punishing herself may have irked you, but her recovery is not about you. There is a spectrum of recovery and ANY progress, regardless of how slight, should be celebrated. If she is replacing an evil with a lesser evil (her own portrayal, not my interpretation), it should be celebrated.

We could be more sensitive, sure, but (imo and from personal experience) what is stated here is nothing compared to what goes through her own head. When you have certain issues... you are your own worst enemy. Lastly, just because someone has had eating issues in the past (which incidentally is usually unrelated to weight & related to control/loss of control), doesn't mean they don't have a true deep desire to be very very thin. Life is short, everyone has the prerogative to pursue what they truly want, whether or not you agree with their methods.
 
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I would also just like to add that you can in no way tell how someone is doing just by looking at them. Especially in the case of mental illness. Someone could look perfectly normal but be horrifically unhealthy and self destructive, whether that be ED related or other wise.

I will also add that perhaps, for the sake of sensitivity, approach Lesya's thread with more caution and neutrality, as we have with Lily's.
 
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Just want to add my 2 cents. I work in addictions rn and I see patients 10x worse than Alesya ever was on the daily. If someone wants to recover, has the necessary resources to do so, and is actively working towards recovery... they will recover. If someone is actively self sabotaging and lying to themselves, no amount of "protection" will help them.
You absolutely cannot say Alesya is a more severe case than Lily based on one isolated interview. This is not a competition for who is "more sick", plus it may just be that Lily is more reserved. Sure her comment about punishing herself may have irked you, but her recovery is not about you. There is a spectrum of recovery and ANY progress, regardless of how slight, should be celebrated. If she is replacing an evil with a lesser evil (her own portrayal, not my interpretation), it should be celebrated.

We could be more sensitive, sure, but (imo and from personal experience) what is stated here is nothing compared to what goes through her own head. When you have certain issues... you are your own worst enemy. Lastly, just because someone has had eating issues in the past (which incidentally is usually unrelated to weight & related to control/loss of control), doesn't mean they don't have a true deep desire to be very very thin. Life is short, everyone has the prerogative to pursue what they truly want, whether or not you agree with their methods.

My initial intention never was to compare Alesya and Lily, so I am sorry if it came across that way. Another user compared the two threads and I personally didn't consider it an accurate comparison which is why I said that in regards to Lily. I fully know that there is no way to understand the inner workings of someone else's recovery. I am not trying to make her recovery about me in any way so my sincere apologies if it came off that way. My initial concern was that Alesya admitted she's been struggling with a lot of serious issues for years and this thread kept getting updates of full body shots with heart emojis and whatever else.

You were right, I shouldn't judge her for saying she has been using the gym as her punishment because it isn't my right to judge how other people get better--especially because my judgements came from a Daily Mail article about another article which is definitely not a good source of information.

And I've struggled with my fair share of eating issues --- I understand it is almost always a control thing. My initial comment wasn't about disagreeing with her (or anybody else's) lifestyle as it was a deep discomfort in continuing this thread without additional sensitivity. But, as I said before, I just won't open her thread. Problem solved!
 
Her Tatler interview is heartbreaking. I hope her therapy sessions pay off and that she can learn to live for herself alone, and not for her parents/followers/anyone else, I can relate to that so much and it's tormenting. I hope she finds a group of trustworthy people who will love her for her personality (because it seems, through her honesty, that she has a beautiful one) and her inner strength to surround herself with, with no ulterior motives, who are able to help her build her confidence and sense of self. It's sad for anyone to not be given that from childhood, it's certainly owed to her now.
 
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Yes, from her interview it really shows she is a really beautiful and lovely human being who needs real love, sincere human love, like we would say in Spanish (I do not know if the translation is like this in English I’m sorry).

I really hope she gets better and can recover from all this, she deserves it, like everyone does :)
 
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We could be more sensitive, sure, but (imo and from personal experience) what is stated here is nothing compared to what goes through her own head. When you have certain issues... you are your own worst enemy.

Okay sure, what's in her head is worse than what's on this page. So? I'm not saying she isn't accountable for her own actions, but at a certain point I believe we have to be responsible for what we post here. You wouldn't dangle a bottle of whiskey in front of an alcoholic, right? Or try and trigger someone's PTSD. Why? Because it's irresponsible. You may work in addictions but this is a public forum, not exposure therapy. You're right that we can't assume that she's a worse case than Lily, but it is a different situation because we assume she reads what's posted here, and we have no indication of that from Lily. And in the long run it's really not difficult to be more sensitive. It takes very little effort.

Lastly, just because someone has had eating issues in the past (which incidentally is usually unrelated to weight & related to control/loss of control), doesn't mean they don't have a true deep desire to be very very thin.

Again, irresponsible.