Amber Heard

I read that she's donating it to a domestic abuse shelter? If true its about the only thing making me hate her less right now I went from being outrageously sympathetic to utterly disgusted.

The wording of that statement was very ambiguous I thought - 'proceeds' from divorce could mean fees from post divorce interviews for example and nothing else. She also didn't specify which charity. If she donates the 7 million to any charity then good for her, but I think the wording of her statement doesn't suggest she's definitely doing that
 
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The wording of that statement was very ambiguous I thought - 'proceeds' from divorce could mean fees from post divorce interviews for example and nothing else. She also didn't specify which charity. If she donates the 7 million to any charity then good for her, but I think the wording of her statement doesn't suggest she's definitely doing that

True. From the top of my head; it doesn't say 'proceeds OF the divorce' but 'proceeds from the divorce'. I don't know if I'm making my argument here effectively but if it were 'of'...it would have struck me as definitive and not some wishy washy 'from'; which could be interpreted multifactorially.
 
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True. From the top of my head; it doesn't say 'proceeds OF the divorce' but 'proceeds from the divorce'. I don't know if I'm making my argument here effectively but if it were 'of'...it would have struck me as definitive and not some wishy washy 'from'; which could be interpreted multifactorially.

Yep, I think it's referring to theoretical money she might make from post divorce interviews maybe. Which it is easy to say you will donate before you've made it.

If she was giving the 7 mil settlement to charity she'd have said so, very clearly, I think.

I once worked on a freelance job for someone who was claiming to donate all profits to charity so I'm very cynical about vague statements of intent in that area; the woman I was working for conveniently arranged things so that her 'expenses' came out of the budget pre-profit and the actual profits were nothing by the time she'd added in her 'costs'.
 
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PR is getting so expensive these days
First thing i thought. I wonder if this was a ruse to get money for donation in the first case (bc she's a tough bitch and money is money.. there was a lot of critique she didn't behave like "typical" domestic violence victims)... or she was advised to donate it all to protect her image.

How tiring.
 
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I read somewhere that she may be getting more, which is kept quiet. No idea if it's true or not, but if she did then I guess she would't mind donating the $7 million, and the rest she gets to keep? Who knows!
 
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I read somewhere that she may be getting more, which is kept quiet. No idea if it's true or not, but if she did then I guess she would't mind donating the $7 million, and the rest she gets to keep? Who knows!

Seriously it must be something like that.
 
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I'd be more impressed if she donated the kickback from the tabloids (since she sold all of those pictures/video). That'd be some serious $$$.
 
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She wanted WAY more money, but she only got a small part, however, I think she realized that her image was damaged (many don't believe her) and with her lifestyle it was not enough to bow out of the limelight for a while. So she was probably advised to donate the money to charity to keep her image intact.

Or maybe she's just a saint...
 
I'm sorry - but to accuse her of lying is so not fucking okay. I completely understand taking a settlement. To be re victimized in court - and go through all of that is really emotionally painful and tiring. It's rare for people to lie about these things - actually it's the same percentage as people lying about every other crime.

Also, JD has had some major issues in his life* - and I don't want to fully go out and say he did it but.. I'm not surprised. She knew right away if she went out about this people wouldn't believe her. I give her major props because it's a difficult thing to do.

Also: http://www.vox.com/2016/8/19/12555646/amber-heard-johnny-depp-domestic-abuse-divorce

* family friend
 
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I have to say I'm quite shocked that nobody here seems to believe for a second that she could be 'innocent'. I don't know for sure, we all don't know for sure. I don't like her either and I agree that the image she's managed to build for herself isn't a very likable one. One can, however, be a gold-digging asshole and an abused woman at the same time. Let's just pretend what she says is true, she is a victim of domestic violence, she was pressured by Johnny's people (I think there's no doubt about that either way) and then agreed to a settlement because she realized she wasn't strong enough to actually bear all the public pressure on her etc. And let's pretend she really wants to donate all the money she got. I know it's hard for most of you to even imagine, but if this scenario was true, what could she have done differently (in this very situation, not in the years before)? How did you expect her to behave? Is there one way to behave for all victims? And even if she made mistakes, which she certainly did, why do her mistakes count so much more in your eyes than Johnny's? Why are you so sure about something that is impossible for all of us to answer with certainty? I'd really appreciate an answer, the dynamics in this thread amaze me, and not in a good way.

Edit: I just saw we posted simultaneously, but thank you @NoOne, that was good to read.
 
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I'm sorry - but to accuse her of lying is so not fucking okay. I completely understand taking a settlement. To be re victimized in court - and go through all of that is really emotionally painful and tiring. It's rare for people to lie about these things - actually it's the same percentage as people lying about every other crime.

Also, JD has had some major issues in his life* - and I don't want to fully go out and say he did it but.. I'm not surprised. She knew right away if she went out about this people wouldn't believe her. I give her major props because it's a difficult thing to do.

Also: http://www.vox.com/2016/8/19/12555646/amber-heard-johnny-depp-domestic-abuse-divorce

* family friend

Oh so it's fine for you to throw shit at him, basically say he did it, but totes not OK to accuse her of lying. :rolleyes:

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How did you expect her to behave? Is there one way to behave for all victims? And even if she made mistakes, which she certainly did, why do her mistakes count so much more in your eyes than Johnny's? Why are you so sure about something that is impossible for all of us to answer with certainty? I'd really appreciate an answer, the dynamics in this thread amaze me, and not in a good way..

yup. and honestly - this would be the worst gold digging strategy. we ALL know (and most of you have participated in it) that 99% when people come out with abuse - they get victim blamed, no one believes them, etc. this is where it becomes dangerous.

just because he has money she HAS to be lying? also as I said before - I really wouldn't put it past him. It's unfortunate, he's obviously in a bad place.. and has been for a long long time. Just because his ex wife said he wasn't abusive to her - doesn't mean anything. Anything at all.
 
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yup. and honestly - this would be the worst gold digging strategy. we ALL know (and most of you have participated in it) that 99% when people come out with abuse - they get victim blamed, no one believes them, etc. this is where it becomes dangerous.

just because he has money she HAS to be lying? also as I said before - I really wouldn't put it past him. It's unfortunate, he's obviously in a bad place.. and has been for a long long time. Just because his ex wife said he wasn't abusive to her - doesn't mean anything. Anything at all.
But always trusting the woman to always tell the truth becomes dangerous for the man if he is innocent. Many men have had their lives ruined because of false accusations.

However, if you have some personal insight into this case then of course you know more than me and I can't really comment more about it. I could only judge from what I had read (as I said earlier my initial reaction was to support her and vilify him) and all I read seemed to back him up more in the end.
 
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I could only judge from what I had read (as I said earlier my initial reaction was to support her and vilify him) and all I read seemed to back him up more in the end.

As I said, I don't know and therefore don't want to judge, and I'm not saying what the media reports is necessarily untrue. But I wouldn't underestimate that he has a huge and experienced PR team around him and at least some media (looking at you, TMZ) has been going after her like there's no tomorrow from the very beginning. I think we can assume that both sides have been trying to influence the media one way or the other, and no matter who is lying, his team did a way better job than hers.
 
I don't know her personally but I formed my opinion of the extent of her abuse by her actions (as they were made available), not her gender.

Actually 8% of rape accusations are ruled as false or unfounded in America, (US Dept of Justice). Annnndd 2.3-5% of inmates in American prisons are estimated to be innocent (here).

As I've noted about five times before, I'm not claiming he's innocent, but asking for her to PROVE he's guilty. Because civilized society.
 
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